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PLAYSMITH

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Since: Jan 29, 2008
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 3:20 pm
Post subject: Defragmentation problems in Windows XP
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An interesting problem that I cannot crack! I tried to defrag one sector of
my hard disk. The program got 14% of the way through then said, "defrag
complete, some files could not be defragmented. See the report to find out
which files could not be defragmented" There were no files listed, and that
portion of the hard disk will not defragment. The other two portions will.
Any suggestions gratefully received
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Gerry

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 8:22 pm
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Please post a copy of a Report after running Disk Defragmenter. The
explanation is it the Report but it is not always easy to see.

Select View Report and click on Save As and Save. Now find VolumeC.txt
in your My Documents Folder and post a copy.

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Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

PLAYSMITH wrote:
> An interesting problem that I cannot crack! I tried to defrag one
> sector of my hard disk. The program got 14% of the way through then
> said, "defrag complete, some files could not be defragmented. See the
> report to find out which files could not be defragmented" There were
> no files listed, and that portion of the hard disk will not
> defragment. The other two portions will. Any suggestions gratefully
> received

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PLAYSMITH

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 8:22 pm
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Thanks Gerry
Here it is: -
Volume Windows XP (CSmile
Volume size = 46.57 GB
Cluster size = 4 KB
Used space = 14.00 GB
Free space = 32.57 GB
Percent free space = 69 %

Volume fragmentation
Total fragmentation = 13 %
File fragmentation = 26 %
Free space fragmentation = 0 %

File fragmentation
Total files = 63,738
Average file size = 338 KB
Total fragmented files = 2,237
Total excess fragments = 19,227
Average fragments per file = 1.30

Pagefile fragmentation
Pagefile size = 1.50 GB
Total fragments = 1

Folder fragmentation
Total folders = 6,258
Fragmented folders = 71
Excess folder fragments = 343

Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation
Total MFT size = 72 MB
MFT record count = 70,560
Percent MFT in use = 95 %
Total MFT fragments = 3

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Fragments File Size Files that cannot be defragmented
None

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Playsmith


"Gerry" wrote:

>
> Please post a copy of a Report after running Disk Defragmenter. The
> explanation is it the Report but it is not always easy to see.
>
> Select View Report and click on Save As and Save. Now find VolumeC.txt
> in your My Documents Folder and post a copy.
>
> --
>
>
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Gerry
> ~~~~
> FCA
> Stourport, England
> Enquire, plan and execute
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> PLAYSMITH wrote:
> > An interesting problem that I cannot crack! I tried to defrag one
> > sector of my hard disk. The program got 14% of the way through then
> > said, "defrag complete, some files could not be defragmented. See the
> > report to find out which files could not be defragmented" There were
> > no files listed, and that portion of the hard disk will not
> > defragment. The other two portions will. Any suggestions gratefully
> > received
>
>
>
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Jim236

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 4:20 am
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"PLAYSMITH" wrote in message

> Thanks Gerry
> Here it is: -
> Volume Windows XP (CSmile
> Volume size = 46.57 GB
> Cluster size = 4 KB
> Used space = 14.00 GB
> Free space = 32.57 GB
> Percent free space = 69 %
>
> Volume fragmentation
> Total fragmentation = 13 %
> File fragmentation = 26 %
> Free space fragmentation = 0 %
>
> File fragmentation
> Total files = 63,738
> Average file size = 338 KB
> Total fragmented files = 2,237
> Total excess fragments = 19,227
> Average fragments per file = 1.30
>
> Pagefile fragmentation
> Pagefile size = 1.50 GB
> Total fragments = 1
>
> Folder fragmentation
> Total folders = 6,258
> Fragmented folders = 71
> Excess folder fragments = 343
>
> Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation
> Total MFT size = 72 MB
> MFT record count = 70,560
> Percent MFT in use = 95 %
> Total MFT fragments = 3
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Fragments File Size Files that cannot be defragmented
> None
>
> --
> Playsmith
>
>
> "Gerry" wrote:
>
>>
>> Please post a copy of a Report after running Disk Defragmenter. The
>> explanation is it the Report but it is not always easy to see.
>>
>> Select View Report and click on Save As and Save. Now find VolumeC.txt
>> in your My Documents Folder and post a copy.
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> Gerry
>> ~~~~
>> FCA
>> Stourport, England
>> Enquire, plan and execute
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>> PLAYSMITH wrote:
>> > An interesting problem that I cannot crack! I tried to defrag one
>> > sector of my hard disk. The program got 14% of the way through then
>> > said, "defrag complete, some files could not be defragmented. See the
>> > report to find out which files could not be defragmented" There were
>> > no files listed, and that portion of the hard disk will not
>> > defragment. The other two portions will. Any suggestions gratefully
>> > received
>>
>>
>>
It looks to me like the culprit is lots of fragmented folders. Can folders
be defragmented? Does it matter if a folder is fragmented?
Jim
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PLAYSMITH

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 7:12 am
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Jim
Thanks for replying. I really don't know what has gone on! I'm rather hoping
Gerry has some ideas!
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Playsmith


"Jim" wrote:

>
> "PLAYSMITH" wrote in message
>
> > Thanks Gerry
> > Here it is: -
> > Volume Windows XP (CSmile
> > Volume size = 46.57 GB
> > Cluster size = 4 KB
> > Used space = 14.00 GB
> > Free space = 32.57 GB
> > Percent free space = 69 %
> >
> > Volume fragmentation
> > Total fragmentation = 13 %
> > File fragmentation = 26 %
> > Free space fragmentation = 0 %
> >
> > File fragmentation
> > Total files = 63,738
> > Average file size = 338 KB
> > Total fragmented files = 2,237
> > Total excess fragments = 19,227
> > Average fragments per file = 1.30
> >
> > Pagefile fragmentation
> > Pagefile size = 1.50 GB
> > Total fragments = 1
> >
> > Folder fragmentation
> > Total folders = 6,258
> > Fragmented folders = 71
> > Excess folder fragments = 343
> >
> > Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation
> > Total MFT size = 72 MB
> > MFT record count = 70,560
> > Percent MFT in use = 95 %
> > Total MFT fragments = 3
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Fragments File Size Files that cannot be defragmented
> > None
> >
> > --
> > Playsmith
> >
> >
> > "Gerry" wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Please post a copy of a Report after running Disk Defragmenter. The
> >> explanation is it the Report but it is not always easy to see.
> >>
> >> Select View Report and click on Save As and Save. Now find VolumeC.txt
> >> in your My Documents Folder and post a copy.
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Hope this helps.
> >>
> >> Gerry
> >> ~~~~
> >> FCA
> >> Stourport, England
> >> Enquire, plan and execute
> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >>
> >> PLAYSMITH wrote:
> >> > An interesting problem that I cannot crack! I tried to defrag one
> >> > sector of my hard disk. The program got 14% of the way through then
> >> > said, "defrag complete, some files could not be defragmented. See the
> >> > report to find out which files could not be defragmented" There were
> >> > no files listed, and that portion of the hard disk will not
> >> > defragment. The other two portions will. Any suggestions gratefully
> >> > received
> >>
> >>
> >>
> It looks to me like the culprit is lots of fragmented folders. Can folders
> be defragmented? Does it matter if a folder is fragmented?
> Jim
>
>
>
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Gerry

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 6:47 pm
Post subject: Re: Defragmentation problems in Windows XP [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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This Report is puzzling. It says you have 2,237 fragmented files but
only one, the MFT is recorded. There are a few files which are never
listed in a Files that cannot be Defragmented List. The MFT Table and
the Pagefile are the most common. The Main Report always provides
information on these files.

Have you ever used a third party disk defragmenter?

Is Hibernation enabled or disabled?

In an attempt to see if it is possible to get a "better" report.

I suggest you download and run cCleaner (freeware)
http://www.ccleaner.com/ccdownload.asp
http://www.ccleaner.com/

With any cleaner you need to proceed with caution. To be safe you
should create a restore point before using cCleaner. cCleaner also
offers backup before removal.

When using cCleaner think twice before checking Autocomplete Form
History under Internet Explorer. You do get a warning but this one has
irritating consequences. You may need to restore your system's
recollection of passwords after use so keep a record off computer so
that they can easily be re-entered.

Leave the Scan for Issues option alone.

Next select Start, All Programs, accessories, System Tools, Disk
CleanUp, More Options, System Restore and remove all but the latest
System Restore point.

Then select Start, Run, type cmd and hit ENTER, then type cd\ and hit
ENTER and that takes you to the c:\> prompt for you then to type
chkdsk C: /F /R. Answer Yes to run at next boot and type exit to return
to Desktop. Restart your computer.

After chkdsk has run try Disk Defragmenter again and post a copy of the
Report after it has been run.


--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

PLAYSMITH wrote:
> Jim
> Thanks for replying. I really don't know what has gone on! I'm rather
> hoping Gerry has some ideas!
>
>>
>> "PLAYSMITH" wrote in message
>>
>>> Thanks Gerry
>>> Here it is: -
>>> Volume Windows XP (CSmile
>>> Volume size = 46.57 GB
>>> Cluster size = 4 KB
>>> Used space = 14.00 GB
>>> Free space = 32.57 GB
>>> Percent free space = 69 %
>>>
>>> Volume fragmentation
>>> Total fragmentation = 13 %
>>> File fragmentation = 26 %
>>> Free space fragmentation = 0 %
>>>
>>> File fragmentation
>>> Total files = 63,738
>>> Average file size = 338 KB
>>> Total fragmented files = 2,237
>>> Total excess fragments = 19,227
>>> Average fragments per file = 1.30
>>>
>>> Pagefile fragmentation
>>> Pagefile size = 1.50 GB
>>> Total fragments = 1
>>>
>>> Folder fragmentation
>>> Total folders = 6,258
>>> Fragmented folders = 71
>>> Excess folder fragments = 343
>>>
>>> Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation
>>> Total MFT size = 72 MB
>>> MFT record count = 70,560
>>> Percent MFT in use = 95 %
>>> Total MFT fragments = 3
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> Fragments File Size Files that cannot be defragmented
>>> None
>>>
>>> --
>>> Playsmith
>>>
>>>
>>> "Gerry" wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Please post a copy of a Report after running Disk Defragmenter.
>>>> The explanation is it the Report but it is not always easy to see.
>>>>
>>>> Select View Report and click on Save As and Save. Now find
>>>> VolumeC.txt in your My Documents Folder and post a copy.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>>
>>>> Gerry
>>>> ~~~~
>>>> FCA
>>>> Stourport, England
>>>> Enquire, plan and execute
>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>
>>>> PLAYSMITH wrote:
>>>>> An interesting problem that I cannot crack! I tried to defrag one
>>>>> sector of my hard disk. The program got 14% of the way through
>>>>> then said, "defrag complete, some files could not be
>>>>> defragmented. See the report to find out which files could not be
>>>>> defragmented" There were no files listed, and that portion of the
>>>>> hard disk will not defragment. The other two portions will. Any
>>>>> suggestions gratefully received
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>> It looks to me like the culprit is lots of fragmented folders. Can
>> folders be defragmented? Does it matter if a folder is fragmented?
>> Jim
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PLAYSMITH

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 6:47 pm
Post subject: Re: Defragmentation problems in Windows XP [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Gerry
You are a complete star! I did as you suggested and, bingo, defrag works.
Report appended below. To answer your questions, I haven't used a third party
defragmenter, but I have used indexdatsuite to remove clutter and that may be
to blame. I wasn't hibernating either. I tried to run chkdsk last night but,
like the defragmenter, it skipped through the stages too quickly, but today
it identified all sorts of broken files. Thank you so much. Here's the new
report: -
Volume Windows XP (CSmile
Volume size = 46.57 GB
Cluster size = 4 KB
Used space = 11.07 GB
Free space = 35.50 GB
Percent free space = 76 %

Volume fragmentation
Total fragmentation = 0 %
File fragmentation = 0 %
Free space fragmentation = 0 %

File fragmentation
Total files = 55,952
Average file size = 256 KB
Total fragmented files = 1
Total excess fragments = 3
Average fragments per file = 1.00

Pagefile fragmentation
Pagefile size = 1.50 GB
Total fragments = 1

Folder fragmentation
Total folders = 5,579
Fragmented folders = 1
Excess folder fragments = 0

Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation
Total MFT size = 72 MB
MFT record count = 61,621
Percent MFT in use = 83 %
Total MFT fragments = 3

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Fragments File Size Files that cannot be defragmented
None
I don't know whether I should worry about files that remain fragmented but
I look forward to your reply if I need to do more. Thanks again.

--
Playsmith


"Gerry" wrote:

>
> This Report is puzzling. It says you have 2,237 fragmented files but
> only one, the MFT is recorded. There are a few files which are never
> listed in a Files that cannot be Defragmented List. The MFT Table and
> the Pagefile are the most common. The Main Report always provides
> information on these files.
>
> Have you ever used a third party disk defragmenter?
>
> Is Hibernation enabled or disabled?
>
> In an attempt to see if it is possible to get a "better" report.
>
> I suggest you download and run cCleaner (freeware)
> http://www.ccleaner.com/ccdownload.asp
> http://www.ccleaner.com/
>
> With any cleaner you need to proceed with caution. To be safe you
> should create a restore point before using cCleaner. cCleaner also
> offers backup before removal.
>
> When using cCleaner think twice before checking Autocomplete Form
> History under Internet Explorer. You do get a warning but this one has
> irritating consequences. You may need to restore your system's
> recollection of passwords after use so keep a record off computer so
> that they can easily be re-entered.
>
> Leave the Scan for Issues option alone.
>
> Next select Start, All Programs, accessories, System Tools, Disk
> CleanUp, More Options, System Restore and remove all but the latest
> System Restore point.
>
> Then select Start, Run, type cmd and hit ENTER, then type cd\ and hit
> ENTER and that takes you to the c:\> prompt for you then to type
> chkdsk C: /F /R. Answer Yes to run at next boot and type exit to return
> to Desktop. Restart your computer.
>
> After chkdsk has run try Disk Defragmenter again and post a copy of the
> Report after it has been run.
>
>
> --
>
>
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Gerry
> ~~~~
> FCA
> Stourport, England
> Enquire, plan and execute
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> PLAYSMITH wrote:
> > Jim
> > Thanks for replying. I really don't know what has gone on! I'm rather
> > hoping Gerry has some ideas!
> >
> >>
> >> "PLAYSMITH" wrote in message
> >>
> >>> Thanks Gerry
> >>> Here it is: -
> >>> Volume Windows XP (CSmile
> >>> Volume size = 46.57 GB
> >>> Cluster size = 4 KB
> >>> Used space = 14.00 GB
> >>> Free space = 32.57 GB
> >>> Percent free space = 69 %
> >>>
> >>> Volume fragmentation
> >>> Total fragmentation = 13 %
> >>> File fragmentation = 26 %
> >>> Free space fragmentation = 0 %
> >>>
> >>> File fragmentation
> >>> Total files = 63,738
> >>> Average file size = 338 KB
> >>> Total fragmented files = 2,237
> >>> Total excess fragments = 19,227
> >>> Average fragments per file = 1.30
> >>>
> >>> Pagefile fragmentation
> >>> Pagefile size = 1.50 GB
> >>> Total fragments = 1
> >>>
> >>> Folder fragmentation
> >>> Total folders = 6,258
> >>> Fragmented folders = 71
> >>> Excess folder fragments = 343
> >>>
> >>> Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation
> >>> Total MFT size = 72 MB
> >>> MFT record count = 70,560
> >>> Percent MFT in use = 95 %
> >>> Total MFT fragments = 3
> >>>
> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>> Fragments File Size Files that cannot be defragmented
> >>> None
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Playsmith
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> "Gerry" wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Please post a copy of a Report after running Disk Defragmenter.
> >>>> The explanation is it the Report but it is not always easy to see.
> >>>>
> >>>> Select View Report and click on Save As and Save. Now find
> >>>> VolumeC.txt in your My Documents Folder and post a copy.
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Hope this helps.
> >>>>
> >>>> Gerry
> >>>> ~~~~
> >>>> FCA
> >>>> Stourport, England
> >>>> Enquire, plan and execute
> >>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >>>>
> >>>> PLAYSMITH wrote:
> >>>>> An interesting problem that I cannot crack! I tried to defrag one
> >>>>> sector of my hard disk. The program got 14% of the way through
> >>>>> then said, "defrag complete, some files could not be
> >>>>> defragmented. See the report to find out which files could not be
> >>>>> defragmented" There were no files listed, and that portion of the
> >>>>> hard disk will not defragment. The other two portions will. Any
> >>>>> suggestions gratefully received
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >> It looks to me like the culprit is lots of fragmented folders. Can
> >> folders be defragmented? Does it matter if a folder is fragmented?
> >> Jim
>
>
>
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Gerry

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 9:53 pm
Post subject: Re: Defragmentation problems in Windows XP [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Good result. Thanks for reporting the outcome.


--
Regards.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

PLAYSMITH wrote:
> Gerry
> You are a complete star! I did as you suggested and, bingo, defrag
> works. Report appended below. To answer your questions, I haven't
> used a third party defragmenter, but I have used indexdatsuite to
> remove clutter and that may be to blame. I wasn't hibernating either.
> I tried to run chkdsk last night but, like the defragmenter, it
> skipped through the stages too quickly, but today it identified all
> sorts of broken files. Thank you so much. Here's the new report: -
> Volume Windows XP (CSmile
> Volume size = 46.57 GB
> Cluster size = 4 KB
> Used space = 11.07 GB
> Free space = 35.50 GB
> Percent free space = 76 %
>
> Volume fragmentation
> Total fragmentation = 0 %
> File fragmentation = 0 %
> Free space fragmentation = 0 %
>
> File fragmentation
> Total files = 55,952
> Average file size = 256 KB
> Total fragmented files = 1
> Total excess fragments = 3
> Average fragments per file = 1.00
>
> Pagefile fragmentation
> Pagefile size = 1.50 GB
> Total fragments = 1
>
> Folder fragmentation
> Total folders = 5,579
> Fragmented folders = 1
> Excess folder fragments = 0
>
> Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation
> Total MFT size = 72 MB
> MFT record count = 61,621
> Percent MFT in use = 83 %
> Total MFT fragments = 3
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Fragments File Size Files that cannot be defragmented
> None
> I don't know whether I should worry about files that remain
> fragmented but
> I look forward to your reply if I need to do more. Thanks again.
>
>
>>
>> This Report is puzzling. It says you have 2,237 fragmented files but
>> only one, the MFT is recorded. There are a few files which are never
>> listed in a Files that cannot be Defragmented List. The MFT Table and
>> the Pagefile are the most common. The Main Report always provides
>> information on these files.
>>
>> Have you ever used a third party disk defragmenter?
>>
>> Is Hibernation enabled or disabled?
>>
>> In an attempt to see if it is possible to get a "better" report.
>>
>> I suggest you download and run cCleaner (freeware)
>> http://www.ccleaner.com/ccdownload.asp
>> http://www.ccleaner.com/
>>
>> With any cleaner you need to proceed with caution. To be safe you
>> should create a restore point before using cCleaner. cCleaner also
>> offers backup before removal.
>>
>> When using cCleaner think twice before checking Autocomplete Form
>> History under Internet Explorer. You do get a warning but this one
>> has irritating consequences. You may need to restore your system's
>> recollection of passwords after use so keep a record off computer so
>> that they can easily be re-entered.
>>
>> Leave the Scan for Issues option alone.
>>
>> Next select Start, All Programs, accessories, System Tools, Disk
>> CleanUp, More Options, System Restore and remove all but the latest
>> System Restore point.
>>
>> Then select Start, Run, type cmd and hit ENTER, then type cd\ and hit
>> ENTER and that takes you to the c:\> prompt for you then to type
>> chkdsk C: /F /R. Answer Yes to run at next boot and type exit to
>> return to Desktop. Restart your computer.
>>
>> After chkdsk has run try Disk Defragmenter again and post a copy of
>> the Report after it has been run.
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> Gerry
>> ~~~~
>> FCA
>> Stourport, England
>> Enquire, plan and execute
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>> PLAYSMITH wrote:
>>> Jim
>>> Thanks for replying. I really don't know what has gone on! I'm
>>> rather hoping Gerry has some ideas!
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "PLAYSMITH" wrote in message
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Gerry
>>>>> Here it is: -
>>>>> Volume Windows XP (CSmile
>>>>> Volume size = 46.57 GB
>>>>> Cluster size = 4 KB
>>>>> Used space = 14.00 GB
>>>>> Free space = 32.57 GB
>>>>> Percent free space = 69 %
>>>>>
>>>>> Volume fragmentation
>>>>> Total fragmentation = 13 %
>>>>> File fragmentation = 26 %
>>>>> Free space fragmentation = 0 %
>>>>>
>>>>> File fragmentation
>>>>> Total files = 63,738
>>>>> Average file size = 338 KB
>>>>> Total fragmented files = 2,237
>>>>> Total excess fragments = 19,227
>>>>> Average fragments per file = 1.30
>>>>>
>>>>> Pagefile fragmentation
>>>>> Pagefile size = 1.50 GB
>>>>> Total fragments = 1
>>>>>
>>>>> Folder fragmentation
>>>>> Total folders = 6,258
>>>>> Fragmented folders = 71
>>>>> Excess folder fragments = 343
>>>>>
>>>>> Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation
>>>>> Total MFT size = 72 MB
>>>>> MFT record count = 70,560
>>>>> Percent MFT in use = 95 %
>>>>> Total MFT fragments = 3
>>>>>
>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> Fragments File Size Files that cannot be defragmented
>>>>> None
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Playsmith
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Gerry" wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please post a copy of a Report after running Disk Defragmenter.
>>>>>> The explanation is it the Report but it is not always easy to
>>>>>> see.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Select View Report and click on Save As and Save. Now find
>>>>>> VolumeC.txt in your My Documents Folder and post a copy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gerry
>>>>>> ~~~~
>>>>>> FCA
>>>>>> Stourport, England
>>>>>> Enquire, plan and execute
>>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>>
>>>>>> PLAYSMITH wrote:
>>>>>>> An interesting problem that I cannot crack! I tried to defrag
>>>>>>> one sector of my hard disk. The program got 14% of the way
>>>>>>> through then said, "defrag complete, some files could not be
>>>>>>> defragmented. See the report to find out which files could not
>>>>>>> be defragmented" There were no files listed, and that portion
>>>>>>> of the hard disk will not defragment. The other two portions
>>>>>>> will. Any suggestions gratefully received
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>> It looks to me like the culprit is lots of fragmented folders. Can
>>>> folders be defragmented? Does it matter if a folder is fragmented?
>>>> Jim
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 10:19 pm
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Hi, need help

I' m trying to defrag my disk. The problem is that, it don't seem to
improve, when its done. It still shows me lot of files that can't be defrag.
I want to defrag until the ANALYZE stops saying "You should defragment this
volume".

Volume (CSmile
Volume size = 13.97 GB
Cluster size = 4 KB
Used space = 10.29 GB
Free space = 3.68 GB
Percent free space = 26 %

Volume fragmentation
Total fragmentation = 17 %
File fragmentation = 34 %
Free space fragmentation = 1 %

File fragmentation
Total files = 66,614
Average file size = 254 KB
Total fragmented files = 68
Total excess fragments = 13,374
Average fragments per file = 1.20

Pagefile fragmentation
Pagefile size = 0 bytes
Total fragments = 0

Folder fragmentation
Total folders = 7,152
Fragmented folders = 1
Excess folder fragments = 0

Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation
Total MFT size = 131 MB
MFT record count = 74,008
Percent MFT in use = 55 %
Total MFT fragments = 346

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Fragments File Size Files that cannot be defragmented
320 20 MB \Documents and Settings\mery\Local
Settings\Application Data\Microsoft\Media Player\wmdbexport.xml
304 20 MB
\RECYCLER\S-1-5-21-3652788021-3597079476-826472284-1008\Dc4.part
352 22 MB
\RECYCLER\S-1-5-21-3652788021-3597079476-826472284-1008\Dc8\thumbnail.db
305 24 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{714C809E-5AB6-4445-9A67-94FBD9F1D08A}\RP944\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTWARE
245 24 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{714C809E-5AB6-4445-9A67-94FBD9F1D08A}\RP945\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTWARE
201 24 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{714C809E-5AB6-4445-9A67-94FBD9F1D08A}\RP952\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTWARE
248 24 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{714C809E-5AB6-4445-9A67-94FBD9F1D08A}\RP950\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTWARE
260 24 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{714C809E-5AB6-4445-9A67-94FBD9F1D08A}\RP951\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTWARE
210 24 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{714C809E-5AB6-4445-9A67-94FBD9F1D08A}\RP946\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTWARE
231 24 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{714C809E-5AB6-4445-9A67-94FBD9F1D08A}\RP947\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTWARE
238 24 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{714C809E-5AB6-4445-9A67-94FBD9F1D08A}\RP948\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTWARE
280 24 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{714C809E-5AB6-4445-9A67-94FBD9F1D08A}\RP949\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTWARE
401 25 MB
\RECYCLER\S-1-5-21-3652788021-3597079476-826472284-1008\Dc7.part
488 32 MB
\RECYCLER\S-1-5-21-3652788021-3597079476-826472284-1008\Dc6.part
525 33 MB \Documents and Settings\mery\Local
Settings\Application Data\Microsoft\Media Player\MTVN\en-us\catalog.wmdb.lz
548 39 MB \Program Files\Java\jre1.6.0\lib\rt.jar
728 47 MB
\RECYCLER\S-1-5-21-3652788021-3597079476-826472284-1008\Dc2.part
1,164 97 MB \Documents and Settings\juan jose\Local
Settings\Application
Data\Identities\{212A1C68-3B91-4141-9007-E3C57D5495C3}\Microsoft\Outlook
Express\Deleted Items.dbx
204 98 MB \WINDOWS\Installer\280cec.msp
204 98 MB \WINDOWS\Installer\140b8c1.msp
204 98 MB \WINDOWS\Installer\7a8cbe.msp
197 98 MB \WINDOWS\Installer\28c495.msp
204 98 MB \WINDOWS\Installer\44bbb3.msp
204 98 MB \WINDOWS\Installer\cb5e9.msp
202 98 MB \WINDOWS\Installer\96129.msp
204 98 MB \WINDOWS\Installer\900f8.msp
204 98 MB \WINDOWS\Installer\60d266.msp
1,096 107 MB \Documents and Settings\guillermo\Local
Settings\Application
Data\Identities\{998550BA-EC54-4908-89DF-B2624111192F}\Microsoft\Outlook
Express\Sent Items.dbx
1,348 148 MB \Documents and Settings\guillermo\Local
Settings\Application
Data\Identities\{998550BA-EC54-4908-89DF-B2624111192F}\Microsoft\Outlook
Express\Inbox.dbx
430 172 MB \Documents and Settings\guillermo\Local
Settings\Application
Data\Identities\{998550BA-EC54-4908-89DF-B2624111192F}\Microsoft\Outlook
Express\Deleted Items.dbx

"Gerry" wrote:

>
> This Report is puzzling. It says you have 2,237 fragmented files but
> only one, the MFT is recorded. There are a few files which are never
> listed in a Files that cannot be Defragmented List. The MFT Table and
> the Pagefile are the most common. The Main Report always provides
> information on these files.
>
> Have you ever used a third party disk defragmenter?
>
> Is Hibernation enabled or disabled?
>
> In an attempt to see if it is possible to get a "better" report.
>
> I suggest you download and run cCleaner (freeware)
> http://www.ccleaner.com/ccdownload.asp
> http://www.ccleaner.com/
>
> With any cleaner you need to proceed with caution. To be safe you
> should create a restore point before using cCleaner. cCleaner also
> offers backup before removal.
>
> When using cCleaner think twice before checking Autocomplete Form
> History under Internet Explorer. You do get a warning but this one has
> irritating consequences. You may need to restore your system's
> recollection of passwords after use so keep a record off computer so
> that they can easily be re-entered.
>
> Leave the Scan for Issues option alone.
>
> Next select Start, All Programs, accessories, System Tools, Disk
> CleanUp, More Options, System Restore and remove all but the latest
> System Restore point.
>
> Then select Start, Run, type cmd and hit ENTER, then type cd\ and hit
> ENTER and that takes you to the c:\> prompt for you then to type
> chkdsk C: /F /R. Answer Yes to run at next boot and type exit to return
> to Desktop. Restart your computer.
>
> After chkdsk has run try Disk Defragmenter again and post a copy of the
> Report after it has been run.
>
>
> --
>
>
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Gerry
> ~~~~
> FCA
> Stourport, England
> Enquire, plan and execute
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> PLAYSMITH wrote:
> > Jim
> > Thanks for replying. I really don't know what has gone on! I'm rather
> > hoping Gerry has some ideas!
> >
> >>
> >> "PLAYSMITH" wrote in message
> >>
> >>> Thanks Gerry
> >>> Here it is: -
> >>> Volume Windows XP (CSmile
> >>> Volume size = 46.57 GB
> >>> Cluster size = 4 KB
> >>> Used space = 14.00 GB
> >>> Free space = 32.57 GB
> >>> Percent free space = 69 %
> >>>
> >>> Volume fragmentation
> >>> Total fragmentation = 13 %
> >>> File fragmentation = 26 %
> >>> Free space fragmentation = 0 %
> >>>
> >>> File fragmentation
> >>> Total files = 63,738
> >>> Average file size = 338 KB
> >>> Total fragmented files = 2,237
> >>> Total excess fragments = 19,227
> >>> Average fragments per file = 1.30
> >>>
> >>> Pagefile fragmentation
> >>> Pagefile size = 1.50 GB
> >>> Total fragments = 1
> >>>
> >>> Folder fragmentation
> >>> Total folders = 6,258
> >>> Fragmented folders = 71
> >>> Excess folder fragments = 343
> >>>
> >>> Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation
> >>> Total MFT size = 72 MB
> >>> MFT record count = 70,560
> >>> Percent MFT in use = 95 %
> >>> Total MFT fragments = 3
> >>>
> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>> Fragments File Size Files that cannot be defragmented
> >>> None
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Playsmith
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> "Gerry" wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Please post a copy of a Report after running Disk Defragmenter.
> >>>> The explanation is it the Report but it is not always easy to see.
> >>>>
> >>>> Select View Report and click on Save As and Save. Now find
> >>>> VolumeC.txt in your My Documents Folder and post a copy.
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Hope this helps.
> >>>>
> >>>> Gerry
> >>>> ~~~~
> >>>> FCA
> >>>> Stourport, England
> >>>> Enquire, plan and execute
> >>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >>>>
> >>>> PLAYSMITH wrote:
> >>>>> An interesting problem that I cannot crack! I tried to defrag one
> >>>>> sector of my hard disk. The program got 14% of the way through
> >>>>> then said, "defrag complete, some files could not be
> >>>>> defragmented. See the report to find out which files could not be
> >>>>> defragmented" There were no files listed, and that portion of the
> >>>>> hard disk will not defragment. The other two portions will. Any
> >>>>> suggestions gratefully received
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >> It looks to me like the culprit is lots of fragmented folders. Can
> >> folders be defragmented? Does it matter if a folder is fragmented?
> >> Jim
>
>
>
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 12:04 pm
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Hi.

Along the same vein, I'm seeing:

Defragmentation is complete for: (CSmile
Some files on this volume could not be defragmented.
Please check the defragmentation report for a list of these files.


However, no files are listed!
The report is below. Your advice/help would be appreciated. Thank you! Julie

Volume (CSmile
Volume size = 97.65 GB
Cluster size = 4 KB
Used space = 15.50 GB
Free space = 82.15 GB
Percent free space = 84 %

Volume fragmentation
Total fragmentation = 0 %
File fragmentation = 0 %
Free space fragmentation = 0 %

File fragmentation
Total files = 53,173
Average file size = 400 KB
Total fragmented files = 1
Total excess fragments = 4
Average fragments per file = 1.00

Pagefile fragmentation
Pagefile size = 1.50 GB
Total fragments = 1

Folder fragmentation
Total folders = 4,845
Fragmented folders = 1
Excess folder fragments = 0

Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation
Total MFT size = 89 MB
MFT record count = 58,219
Percent MFT in use = 63 %
Total MFT fragments = 3

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(Msg. 11) Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 2:14 pm
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Julie wrote:
> Along the same vein, I'm seeing:
>
> Defragmentation is complete for: (CSmile
> Some files on this volume could not be defragmented.
> Please check the defragmentation report for a list of these files.
>
> However, no files are listed!
> The report is below. Your advice/help would be appreciated. Thank
> you! Julie
>
> Volume (CSmile
> Volume size = 97.65 GB
> Cluster size = 4 KB
> Used space = 15.50 GB
> Free space = 82.15 GB
> Percent free space = 84 %
>
> Volume fragmentation
> Total fragmentation = 0 %
> File fragmentation = 0 %
> Free space fragmentation = 0 %
>
> File fragmentation
> Total files = 53,173
> Average file size = 400 KB
> Total fragmented files = 1
> Total excess fragments = 4
> Average fragments per file = 1.00
>
> Pagefile fragmentation
> Pagefile size = 1.50 GB
> Total fragments = 1
>
> Folder fragmentation
> Total folders = 4,845
> Fragmented folders = 1
> Excess folder fragments = 0
>
> Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation
> Total MFT size = 89 MB
> MFT record count = 58,219
> Percent MFT in use = 63 %
> Total MFT fragments = 3
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Fragments File Size Files that cannot be defragmented
> None

I am not seeing an issue there. I think the best advice would be to ignore
the message and move on. Wink

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(Msg. 12) Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 1:04 pm
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"Shenan Stanley" wrote:

> Julie wrote:
> > Along the same vein, I'm seeing:
> >
> > Defragmentation is complete for: (CSmile
> > Some files on this volume could not be defragmented.
> > Please check the defragmentation report for a list of these files.
> >
> > However, no files are listed!
> > The report is below. Your advice/help would be appreciated. Thank
> > you! Julie
> >
> > Volume (CSmile
> > Volume size = 97.65 GB
> > Cluster size = 4 KB
> > Used space = 15.50 GB
> > Free space = 82.15 GB
> > Percent free space = 84 %
> >
> > Volume fragmentation
> > Total fragmentation = 0 %
> > File fragmentation = 0 %
> > Free space fragmentation = 0 %
> >
> > File fragmentation
> > Total files = 53,173
> > Average file size = 400 KB
> > Total fragmented files = 1
> > Total excess fragments = 4
> > Average fragments per file = 1.00
> >
> > Pagefile fragmentation
> > Pagefile size = 1.50 GB
> > Total fragments = 1
> >
> > Folder fragmentation
> > Total folders = 4,845
> > Fragmented folders = 1
> > Excess folder fragments = 0
> >
> > Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation
> > Total MFT size = 89 MB
> > MFT record count = 58,219
> > Percent MFT in use = 63 %
> > Total MFT fragments = 3
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Fragments File Size Files that cannot be defragmented
> > None
>
> I am not seeing an issue there. I think the best advice would be to ignore
> the message and move on. Wink
>
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>
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 3:50 pm
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Julie wrote:
> Along the same vein, I'm seeing:
>
> Defragmentation is complete for: (CSmile
> Some files on this volume could not be defragmented.
> Please check the defragmentation report for a list of these files.
>
> However, no files are listed!
> The report is below. Your advice/help would be appreciated. Thank
> you! Julie
>
> Volume (CSmile
> Volume size = 97.65 GB
> Cluster size = 4 KB
> Used space = 15.50 GB
> Free space = 82.15 GB
> Percent free space = 84 %
>
> Volume fragmentation
> Total fragmentation = 0 %
> File fragmentation = 0 %
> Free space fragmentation = 0 %
>
> File fragmentation
> Total files = 53,173
> Average file size = 400 KB
> Total fragmented files = 1
> Total excess fragments = 4
> Average fragments per file = 1.00
>
> Pagefile fragmentation
> Pagefile size = 1.50 GB
> Total fragments = 1
>
> Folder fragmentation
> Total folders = 4,845
> Fragmented folders = 1
> Excess folder fragments = 0
>
> Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation
> Total MFT size = 89 MB
> MFT record count = 58,219
> Percent MFT in use = 63 %
> Total MFT fragments = 3
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Fragments File Size Files that cannot be defragmented
> None

Shenan Stanley wrote:
> I am not seeing an issue there. I think the best advice would be
> to ignore the message and move on. Wink

Julie wrote:
>

Julie,

Even with the additional information provided in your last response - my
advice remains the same. Wink

I see no issue and I would ignore the message.

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